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First_Name: Clyde
Last_Name: Griffing
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E_Mail: cgriffin@utah.gov
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Remote Name: 204.113.19.8
Date: October 08, 2008
Time: 12:35 PM
Fifty-seven year old male born and raised in McGehee, Ar. Moved to SLC in 1981. Am interested in knowing truth about MMM. Joined MMA today. Will you confirm this? Recommend viewing weekly TV show - The Truth of The Matter - on Tuesday nights channel 20, or by computer for those outside of utah.
First_Name: donald
Last_Name: baker
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Family_Name: baker
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Remote Name: 69.231.94.100
Date: October 02, 2008
Time: 09:36 PM
Would like to contact any descendants of Isaac A. Martin and Mariah Eliabeth Baker Martin. They were married in 1867 in Boone Co., AR and had eight children. Four boys and four girls. Mariah is buried in Crown Hill Cemetery, Denver, CO. D.Baker
First_Name: Mary
Last_Name: Vogel
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Family_Name: Baker
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Remote Name: 207.69.137.43
Date: September 21, 2008
Time: 12:56 PM
I'm granddaughter of Bonnie (Baker) Moore I am just learning of all this and my relations to it. I am in total shock.
First_Name: Jae
Last_Name: Wendy
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Remote Name: 209.243.1.128
Date: September 19, 2008
Time: 07:01 PM
I just saw a movie about this and decided to look it up on the web. What an interesting, but sad story. I was raised in a Christian home and was told the Mormans were a cult. I guess after viewing this, it is. They let their beliefs be from a man, not God. Saddens me.
First_Name: Richard
Last_Name: Armstrong
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Remote Name: 24.233.110.206
Date: September 18, 2008
Time: 11:15 PM
Here is where the truth finally is displayed for all to see.
First_Name: Ernest
Last_Name: Palomar
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Remote Name: 129.8.204.111
Date: September 18, 2008
Time: 12:50 AM
I feel for all the innocence lost on that dreadful day. The deceit and cowardliness is hard to fathom.
First_Name: Joyce
Last_Name: Lawrence
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Family_Name: Wood
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Remote Name: 216.93.236.66
Date: September 14, 2008
Time: 11:41 PM
First_Name: Bonnie
Last_Name: Reicher
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Remote Name: 72.175.8.250
Date: September 10, 2008
Time: 10:16 PM
I have just heard about this time in history. Why isn't this massacre in told about in American history. Especially in the migration west. Is it becouse of the Morman religion?
First_Name: Becky
Last_Name: Whipple
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Family_Name: Fancher
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Remote Name: 75.162.35.74
Date: August 31, 2008
Time: 12:16 AM
First_Name: Debra
Last_Name: Branin
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Family_Name: Lee
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Remote Name: 160.7.255.76
Date: August 28, 2008
Time: 07:03 PM
I am not proud of what my ancestors have done. I do not excuse them for what they have do ether. I have tried to make since of the atrocity for years. I learned about this event early in life, and have felt a great remorse ever since. May God heal the wounds of the murdered and mend the heart of those of us who shoulder the burden of our ancestors.
First_Name: Richard
Last_Name: Chowning
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Family_Name: Hatch
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Remote Name: 75.169.57.176
Date: August 20, 2008
Time: 01:48 PM
I plan on visiting the site in September. I just drop by your site for insight.
First_Name: Kristy
Last_Name: Taylor
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Remote Name: 75.0.203.130
Date: July 26, 2008
Time: 10:38 PM
As a fellow Arkansan and fellow American, I want to express my gratitude to your organization for keeping the memory of these victims alive. The mormon church owes your families, the states of Arkansas and Missouri, and the enitre nation a long over due apology.
First_Name: Tonie
Last_Name: Dunlap
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Family_Name: Dunlaps
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Remote Name: 70.255.103.31
Date: July 21, 2008
Time: 01:21 AM
I want to know more about the history on the Dunlap side
First_Name: Mark
Last_Name: Mortenson
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Remote Name: 69.181.17.59
Date: July 11, 2008
Time: 09:42 PM
The Tanners started my interest in the Mountain Meadows Massacre and then the work of Juanita Brooks broadened the scope. Since that time I have collected a number of the books on the subject. I have been trying to find out who Basil G. Parker was writing about on the Mormon side. In his book "Life and Adventures of Basil G. Parker" he says that he had outlived a person he had sworn to keep secret certain details about the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Do you know who he is talking about? Thanks for any information.
First_Name: Steve
Last_Name: Forbes
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Family_Name: williams
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Remote Name: 66.235.250.37
Date: July 11, 2008
Time: 02:44 PM
my relative was one of the original pioneer founder of ceder city rumors in the family for years about some family involevment any info you have would be helpful
First_Name: Joseph
Last_Name: Pendergraff
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Remote Name: 97.87.119.210
Date: July 11, 2008
Time: 08:01 AM
First_Name: vuki
Last_Name: wilson
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Remote Name: 75.141.233.29
Date: July 11, 2008
Time: 03:07 AM
what a terrible thing that some people think they are above Gods law- even when they think they are gods law
First_Name: Charles
Last_Name: Waters
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Remote Name: 68.161.179.254
Date: July 11, 2008
Time: 12:14 AM
I just watch a special on the History Channel back here in Eastchester New York. I'm shock by the findings of this Massacre. I know their leader was never found guilty BUT I still can't believe they name a Major Colleg after him. What was these people thinking? Charlie Waters
First_Name: George
Last_Name: Davis
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Remote Name: 75.110.139.114
Date: July 10, 2008
Time: 11:38 PM
I saw a program about Mountain Meadows on the history channel and decided to look it up. I think that you are doing a wonderful job preserving the site.
First_Name: Gary
Last_Name: Schott
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Remote Name: 71.38.52.196
Date: June 28, 2008
Time: 05:32 PM
Being a history buff and having read "American Massacre" by Sally Denton I was delighted to find your site. You all have done a wonderful job and such cruelty, paranoia and cover up should never be forgotten. It's a shame that Brigham Young escaped the crime and placed blame on others. This shows the coward he really was and not a great leader. Thanks for the site. Well done. Gary D. Schott, Green Valley, AZ
First_Name: Beverly
Last_Name: Smith
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Remote Name: 75.66.26.107
Date: June 21, 2008
Time: 08:25 PM
I am 53 years old and only recently heard of this awful tragedy. And, the silly thing is, I found out about it through the movie depiction, September Dawn. I am a western movie fan and am always looking for westerns I have not seen. I chose this one for that very reason, not realizing the significance of it, and now the profound impact the story has stirred in me. I honestly don't know what to say. Tragedies of this magnitude occur(ed) seemingly without guilt or conscience.
First_Name: Linda
Last_Name: Bailey
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Remote Name: 12.199.43.174
Date: June 04, 2008
Time: 09:39 PM
It is so hard to believe that this horrible thing happened and I never heard about it until I moved to Arkansas from Texas in 1991! I never heard anything about it and I have always been a history buff. My prayers are with all the decendents. I think I probably know some of the decendents. Linda Bailey Alpena, AR
First_Name: Liz
Last_Name: Brown
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Remote Name: 157.201.186.158
Date: May 28, 2008
Time: 01:43 PM
First_Name: Liz
Last_Name: Brown
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Remote Name: 157.201.186.158
Date: May 28, 2008
Time: 01:43 PM
First_Name: Linda
Last_Name: Rolfson
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E_Mail: lt_47@hotmail.com
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Remote Name: 198.163.179.19
Date: May 27, 2008
Time: 09:31 AM
I just watched September Dawn and what a shame. I was born into the Mormon church - grandparents coming from Payson to Raymond Alberta. I am not a practising church member and after seeing the movie no longer want to be associated with the religion. It makes me ashamed that I could possibly be related to those murderers.
First_Name: Bob
Last_Name: Unferth
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Remote Name: 98.165.162.26
Date: May 20, 2008
Time: 02:54 AM
On Wednesday, September 15, 1999 my wife and I left Cedar City for the Mountain Meadows Massacre Site. I had encountered the subject of the Massacre in something I was researching and found this web-site devoted to the Massacre. Here, I had thought, was a piece of history in the making, and an unusual and important type of history. In 1857 a wagon train of about 120 pioneers left Arkansas for California following on the old Spanish Trail, led by Alexander Fancher and John Baker. They passed through Salt Lake and proceeded south to Mountain Meadows where they camped. The Mormons had a lot of anxiety and antagonism from their experiences in New York, Ohio, Illinois, other places, and contemporary actions of the federal government. The Ute Indians had their own grievances. It may be that the Utes, Mormons disguised as Indians, or a combination attacked the pioneers. Hostilities went on for about a week. On September 11, 1857, the Mormon militia negotiated a truce and arranged for the pioneers to leave their wagon train and march back to Cedar City. While on route the Utes and Mormons, led by John D. Lee, ambushed the pioneers and massacred all but about 17 small children. John Lee was later executed for his role in the massacre—the only one so treated. One hundred and forty-two years later on September 11, 1999 the families and friends of those involved and those who died met together. They, the offspring of John Lee, Alexander Fancher, John Baker and many others from both sides, participated together in dedicating a new monument to those who had died in this, the second largest massacre of European-Americans to occur during the settling of the American West. Custer’s Last Stand was the largest. Also in attendance was the President of the Mormon Church, Gordon Hinckley, who had been very instrumental in having the monument rebuilt and rededicated. President Hinckley said that he first learned of the Massacre at Mountain Meadows in 1947, when his father took him to the site and told him the story. Ever since he felt a deep compassion for those who died at the location. President Hinckley said, “…we express our regrets over what happened…We need to eliminate the hatred…but don’t wait. I am an old man, 88 years old, and I want to be around to see this project completed.” We arrived four days after the dedication. The flowers were still present. We talked to a few people who were visiting the monuments, including a great grandson of someone who had been on the wagon train. It seemed to us that the significance of this event lay, not in the massacre, but rather in two other elements: the long time these wounds stayed open. After 142 years, people still speak of hate. And the reconciliation; Richard O. Lee wrote, “my great great grandfather participated in this massacre…I worried that when people found that I was descendant of John D. Lee that they would hold bitter feelings for me…Here I was during that dedication a descendant of one who participated in the massacre, sitting next to a descendant of one who was massacred!…We talked at length…I was brought to tears over and over again as the program proceeded…The only way this event could have been better would be to have everyone in the world feel and understand the power of love and forgiveness that I felt that day.” Kristie Fancher wrote: “It touched my heart deeply…What a healing experience it was for all who attended. I realized that fear can make good people do terrible things to each other…this experience has made me a better person.” Nancy and I felt lucky to have seen the afterglow of this dedication. May the monument be a guide to reconcilation throughout the world.
First_Name: Grace
Last_Name: Hill
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Remote Name: 209.240.206.201
Date: May 14, 2008
Time: 12:14 AM
I'm a former member of the LDS (Mormon) church. When you first join the Mormon church, noone tells you about these things. When I learned about Joseph Smith "marrying" little girls and other men's wives and about the MMM, I didn't walk out, I RUN out. I'm SO ashamed having ever belonged to such a crazy Cult! People should demand from their Government that this event will be included in future printings of American history and taught in history classes. I already wrote letters to my reps. God bless you all! Gracie
First_Name: Robert
Last_Name: Galbraith
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: Fancher
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Remote Name: 69.180.219.210
Date: May 07, 2008
Time: 03:49 AM
Just found out about this travesty a couple of weeks ago. My grandmother was a Fancher from Sparta,Tennessee and a relative of Capt. Alexander Fancher.
First_Name: Roger
Last_Name: Odekirk
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Remote Name: 67.166.107.150
Date: May 04, 2008
Time: 07:16 PM
I was there first in 1977, agine in 1983.
First_Name: Joshua
Last_Name: Cobbett
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Remote Name: 66.52.142.3
Date: May 04, 2008
Time: 12:51 AM
First_Name: Donald
Last_Name: Dunlap
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Family_Name: Dunlap
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Remote Name: 70.140.219.53
Date: April 30, 2008
Time: 10:53 PM
I attended the 150th anniversary. I hope and pray that all interested parties unite and see that this sight is preserved. Hopefully as a National Monument sometime in the future.
First_Name: Glenn
Last_Name: Jones
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Remote Name: 207.200.116.130
Date: April 30, 2008
Time: 02:41 PM
The massacre was a deplorable and needless tragedy. However, for the Mormons to attempt to lay blame on the Piute Indians was ever more shameful. For a more complete reading that includes the archeological survey results, refer to "To Feed a Tree in Zion: Osteological Analysis of the 1857 Mountain Meadows Massacre.
First_Name: Betty
Last_Name: King
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Family_Name: Fancher
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Remote Name: 67.142.130.26
Date: April 29, 2008
Time: 11:30 AM
This event was first spoken of by my father when I was a child. The book, The Fancher Train, was in our Glasgow, Ky. library and is based on this event. We were told that this was a part of our family history. It is a sad an deplorable event, but only one of many, that was part of our country's history. Many of our ancestors endured so much to open up this country for us, and whether they became well-known or died in anonimity, I am proud of them all and grateful for their sacrifices.
First_Name: Bob
Last_Name: Weaver
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Remote Name: 76.97.62.51
Date: April 25, 2008
Time: 09:16 PM
I just saw the movie "September Dawn." I not never heard of the massacre before, but after watching the movie, I looked the site up. You have done a great job. I enjoy history, and by far this is the best historical site I have ever found.
First_Name: Pat
Last_Name: Williams
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Family_Name: Williams
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Remote Name: 74.208.106.109
Date: April 11, 2008
Time: 01:48 AM
I liked your site.
First_Name: Herb
Last_Name: Sleeper
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Remote Name: 70.135.72.53
Date: April 09, 2008
Time: 01:58 PM
History buff
First_Name: Jennifer
Last_Name: Black
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Remote Name: 98.19.14.185
Date: April 07, 2008
Time: 02:22 AM
What a sad, sad thing to have happened. I can understand boh sides. Neither were right, but the men who killed the immigrants were absolutely WRONG. It amazes me that the date is Sept. 11. What a strange and horrible coinscidence.
First_Name: Devin
Last_Name: Esterly
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Remote Name: 208.119.81.34
Date: April 04, 2008
Time: 01:46 PM
First_Name: Valerie
Last_Name: Hayes
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Family_Name: Baker
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Remote Name: 70.178.150.186
Date: April 03, 2008
Time: 11:26 PM
I am a great granddaughter of the youngest survivor, William T. Baker, great great granddaughter of George W. Baker and great, great, great grandaughter of John T. Baker
First_Name: Valerie
Last_Name: Hayes
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Family_Name: Baker
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Remote Name: 70.178.150.186
Date: April 03, 2008
Time: 11:18 PM
I am a great granddaughter of the youngest survivor, William T. Baker, great great granddaughter of George W. Baker and great, great, great grandaughter of John T. Baker
First_Name: albert
Last_Name: cameron
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Remote Name: 147.58.129.102
Date: April 01, 2008
Time: 01:38 PM
I just learned of this and want to learn more.
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Last_Name: cameron
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Remote Name: 147.58.129.102
Date: April 01, 2008
Time: 01:37 PM
I just learned of this and want to learn more.
First_Name: Jack
Last_Name: Learned
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Remote Name: 206.207.104.182
Date: April 01, 2008
Time: 12:08 AM
Were the Mormons the first religious fanatics? Probably not. Will they be the last? Probably not. The atrocities committed in His name defy all comprehension. Does God weep for us...or laugh?
First_Name: Michael
Last_Name: Kuhlman
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Remote Name: 75.118.198.154
Date: March 29, 2008
Time: 09:36 PM
I just rented the video disk called the September Dawn I just wanted to say : "What a Great American tragedy" that took place on that day "GOD BLESS"
First_Name: Susan
Last_Name: Johnson
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Remote Name: 68.9.226.13
Date: March 29, 2008
Time: 07:54 PM
As an avid lay historian, this chapter in our collective history is fascinating and haunting to me. I hope forgiveness has been achieved and all parties rest in peace.
First_Name: Ed
Last_Name: Rush
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Family_Name: Rush
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Remote Name: 24.117.26.188
Date: March 29, 2008
Time: 03:08 PM
Milum Rush was the brother of my great-great-grandfather John Houston Rush.
First_Name: Tom
Last_Name: Keith
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Remote Name: 71.219.0.99
Date: March 29, 2008
Time: 01:33 PM
Many years ago, I read a book titled: John Doyle Lee - Zealot, Pioneer Builder, Scapegoat - by Juanita Brooks. Mrs Brooks characterized the Fancher Party as (for it's day) well financed and equiped for their trip to California. An amount of cash money was mentioned as being in possesion of this traveling group, five thousand dollars as I recall. My question is: Was this money ever accounted for - was restitution ever paid? The Mormons have "almost" admitted to the murders and I'd like to know if they have admitted to being theives. Of course, all of the people who participated are long dead. The Mormon Church knows the desposition of the cash and should own up to it.
First_Name: Karl
Last_Name: Woods
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Family_Name: Wood
E_Mail: kwoods42@comcast.net
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Remote Name: 69.2.249.5
Date: March 28, 2008
Time: 01:40 PM
Looking at the Genology link for Wood, I may be related to Martha Wood, born 1847 in Marion County, Arkansas. I will have to check genology records I have at home.
First_Name: Ruth
Last_Name: Woods
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Family_Name: Woods
E_Mail: rwoods421@comcast.net
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Remote Name: 67.182.196.117
Date: March 28, 2008
Time: 12:40 PM
I just finished reading books The Mountain Meadows Massacre and Writings of John D. Lee. I want to visit the meadows sometime this summer of 2008. I live in Salt Lake City and am LDS. I have never heard much about this but decided to research it. Looking forward to visit. Ruth Woods
First_Name: Jerre
Last_Name: George
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Remote Name: 206.255.150.172
Date: March 27, 2008
Time: 02:39 PM
I'm from Berryville, Arkansas, and it seems like I was told that I had a relative on the wagon train, but I don't know who it was. I had always thought he was the guide. I see where there is going to be an envoy in Carroll County, AR tomorrow from the Mormon Church to "parley" with relatives. Any info on that?
First_Name: Paul
Last_Name: Johns
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Remote Name: 68.108.24.231
Date: March 22, 2008
Time: 10:51 PM
I know the church had something to do with it.
First_Name: Sean
Last_Name: Fancher
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Family_Name: Fancher
E_Mail: kingofcards3000@yahoo.com
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Remote Name: 74.129.209.189
Date: March 19, 2008
Time: 05:51 PM
If anyone can help me, I would like to know exactly how I am related to the victims of this tragic event. I have been told by the rest of my family that we are definitely either decedents ourselves or relatives of the decedents. My father's name is Scott, and he has three older brothers; Philip, Charles, and Kevin. If you can, please e-mail me with the results of your findings. Thank you, Sean Fancher
First_Name: Katie
Last_Name: Godlonton
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Remote Name: 142.179.188.49
Date: March 17, 2008
Time: 12:10 PM
I feel that the mormon church should stand up to the plate and acknowledge this terrible peice of history. I am so suprised that no one knows about this, I know I will definatly be telling people. I only learnt about it after watching "september dawn"
First_Name: Frank
Last_Name: Davidson
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Family_Name: Dunlap
E_Mail: frankdavidson@prodigy.net
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Remote Name: 69.227.210.250
Date: March 13, 2008
Time: 04:45 AM
It is said that my great grandmother Bertha Rutha Dunlap was on the wagon train and survived she married William Lewis in Arkansas.
First_Name: bob
Last_Name: leonard
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Remote Name: 76.87.36.182
Date: March 11, 2008
Time: 10:43 AM
i just watched the jon voight movie..."September Dawn".....what horrors men do in the name of their gods....the human race has a long way to go to justify their existence.
First_Name: Kathleen
Last_Name: Brazeau
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Family_Name: Dunlap
E_Mail: kbraz55@msn.com
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Remote Name: 75.9.121.173
Date: March 10, 2008
Time: 05:05 PM
First_Name: harry
Last_Name: veal
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Remote Name: 207.62.206.235
Date: March 10, 2008
Time: 02:47 PM
i am a college student at yuba college, marysville california. I am in a speech class doing a report on the massacre. When i did a serach for info your site came up. I specically typed in lessons learned from massacre. It should your sit with an army officers investigation into the reasons why and reports from individuals in the area at that time.Major Carelton's report. My question is, how can I get a copy of tht info or the use of certain passages, to use in my speech. This is only for my class assignment. in group speech communication speech 6.p.s. thank you for the in formation that you accumalated over the years.
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Date: March 07, 2008
Time: 11:48 PM
thank you for keeping history alive to those who would not know without you.
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Date: March 05, 2008
Time: 02:02 PM
Just reading up on the event. Don't want to watch them movie, would prefer to know the truth.
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Date: March 04, 2008
Time: 12:14 AM
If allowed, I would highly suggest contacting Utah Lighthouse Ministry, in Salt Lake City. www.utlm.org You will learn from people who are trying to inform us about the real history of the LDS Church. Thank you.
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Date: March 03, 2008
Time: 11:35 PM
My wife & I have been to Utah 5 times, learning about and becoming friends with family members of Butch Cassidy. This experience has led me to the sad event of 1857, at Mountain Meadows. I simply don't know the words that will say how bad this event was. I now have read quite a number of books on the subject and have numerous more on order. I guess what causes the greatest sadness for me are two things. To believe that a man who had the power and control over all his followers as this man did, and then be presented as not knowing of,or planning what happened, is very,very hard to buy. I of course speak of Mr. Brigham Young. Then to deny, cover up, even to this day, the participation and leadership of the LDS Church in what happened, defies common sense. I have a copy of a letter written by the little girl who had a bullet take off part of her ear. She was on her dad's lap, the bullet struck her father in the chest. Of course, he was killed. We hope to return to Utah in 09. If this happens, we will do what I wished we had of done during prior trips. We will go about 30 some odd miles s/w of Cedar City. I want to walk where they walked. What a shame. Thank you.
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Date: March 03, 2008
Time: 11:08 PM
Just trying to learn more about the event and what had happened and the families involved. I am connected by way of marriage to my wife, Loretta Hansen Murray; which I believe to be connected to the Fancher Family. It will be a process, but I feel I should know. I also want to know to let my children know.
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Date: March 01, 2008
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Ms or sir Have read four books on this subject one of them twice. And still find so many unanswered question to be explained. It was a sad day in the history of our country and one that the LDS church should stand up and take responsibility for. Our thoughts and prayers go out to both sides on this terrible tragedy. As long as there are questions it well never go away!
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Date: March 01, 2008
Time: 01:11 AM
The story of the massacre was passed down to me by family years ago. A great great (?) aunt was married to one of the militia men who participated in the massacre. The men were sworn to secrecy, even from their wives. On discovering the awful truth, she left her husband and later died of "mysterious causes". We were taught never to speak of it outside the family. To this day, the family related to her are no part of the Mormon church. To this day, my father is afraid to speak of the massacre openly.
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Date: February 29, 2008
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Date: February 28, 2008
Time: 10:45 AM
I hope one day to be able to visit the memorial sites.
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Date: February 27, 2008
Time: 07:16 PM
I just finished viewing the movie "September Dawn". What a shame this happened..............
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Date: February 24, 2008
Time: 11:13 PM
I've just seen the movie September Dawn and was unbelievably moved. I've never heard of this event and was saddened to find out that the Mormon church was directly responsible. I've always pictured them as a peaceful, family oriented sect. I guess it's hard to know the basis or originations of a group unless you study up on them. My heart goes out to all the families that lost relatives. God bless them all for just wanting to begin a new life and have it cut down because of something like fanaticism and prejudice.
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Date: February 23, 2008
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Date: February 23, 2008
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Date: February 18, 2008
Time: 02:49 AM
I WAS VERY SADDENED AFTER SEEING THE MOVIE ON THIS EVENT THIS WEEKEND, NEVER HAD HEARD OF THIS. MY SON MARRIED A MORMAN OVER 1 YEAR AGO, THIS REALLY HIT HOME, MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER AND GREAT GRANDFATHER TRAVELED FROM ARKANSAS YEARS AGO, I CAN REMEMBER HER TELLING ME THE STORIES, SHE WAS AOBUT 15 YEARS OLD. I WONDER IF ANY OF OUR FAMILY WAS INVOLED IN THIS HAPPENING? MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER DIED ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO, SHE WAS SUCH A STRONG LITTLE WOMAN. MY GREAT GRANDFATHER'S NAME WAS PORTER HUDDLESTON. THANK YOU, KAREN HUDDLESTON HAYNES
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Date: February 17, 2008
Time: 11:38 PM
I'm not sure if I am related to any of the Fanchers killed but would like to find out. My grandfathers name was Cary Fancher. I have no other information except he lived in Cincinnati Ohio until his death. He died long before I was born. My father was only an infant when his father died from complications from a factory accident. He was survived by five children Richard, Stella, Thelma, William and Louis, ( my father). If you can find out any information from this I would greatly appreciate it or contact my e-mail if you have any questions for me. Thank you, Kim S. Fancher
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Date: February 17, 2008
Time: 10:02 PM
I came to this sight after watching "September Dawn". It chilled me to think of the families that were killed at the massacre and also the orphans left with the memories. I am very thankful that the event has not been completely swept under the rug and there are those that are fighting to protect the memories of those lost. God bless you in your efforts.
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Date: February 17, 2008
Time: 12:09 PM
The movie about this incident angered me,coming to this site has saddened me.We traveled to Utah last year-I wish we had known this existed then.
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Date: February 17, 2008
Time: 01:43 AM
Up until I watched the movie, September Dawn, I had not been aware of this tragic event. I'm sorry this happened.
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Date: February 16, 2008
Time: 11:31 PM
I just saw the movie and was curious. Very very sad
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Date: February 16, 2008
Time: 07:13 PM
It is a travesty that no one knows about this.
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Date: February 15, 2008
Time: 12:14 AM
A friend let me see a picture about this movie and all my friends in office are deceptioned with it, thinking that our church is a murder church, specially our prophet Brigham Young, sorry by my enghlish.
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Date: February 14, 2008
Time: 12:48 PM
Such an outrageous tragedy! The triune God, Who is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, will one day set the record straight--to be sure. Meanwhile, continue to pressure the Mormons to tell THE TRUTH about how Brigham Young was intimately involved. May God richly bless you all as you hold out for verity!
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Date: February 14, 2008
Time: 07:16 AM
IM very very sorry this happend. I wish i could have made a diffrence.I would have join you all in september if i would have known about it then. Im sorry ance again .
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Date: February 13, 2008
Time: 12:52 PM
My husband, Charles, and I want you to know how outraged and saddened we are over this horrific tragedy. We learned about this tragedy through the pbs special on the Mormon Church. We both were stunned that 9/11/2001 was not the first "9/11" tragedy in our nation's history; and that in Mountain Meadows a group of religious fanatics murdered Americans. Know that we are wrapping all association members in our love and prayers and support.
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Date: February 12, 2008
Time: 08:31 PM
I first heard of the massacre on the PBS special on the Mormons. It it is sad chapter in history. I came to this website to seek more knowledge of the events and try to understand how something like this could happen.
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Date: February 12, 2008
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I first heard of the massacre on the PBS special on the Mormons. It it is sad chapter in history. I came to this website to seek more knowledge of the events and try to understand how something like this could happen.
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Date: February 12, 2008
Time: 11:07 AM
John and William Prewit were older brothers of my great grandfather, Elijah Prewit.
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Date: February 12, 2008
Time: 01:40 AM
This is exactly what happens when stupid people mix with religious garbage and like zombies, give control of their bodies to corrupt and deviated entities like the pioneering mormons. Are mormons today just as dangerous?
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Date: February 11, 2008
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Date: February 10, 2008
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My grandmother was a Turbyville born in Strawberry, Arkansas, Nancy Turbyville was married to James DeShazo, their son, Allen DeShazo was killed in the Mountain Meadow Massacre. I live in Cedar City, UT although I had no previous knowledge of these events. I visited the site of the memorial and have done a lot of reading since learning of the tragedy of that day. I cannot say that I will ever understand the events that so sadly took these lives. I also feel that a cross should be allowed to be placed at the same place of the memorial, for the simple fact that many of these families were Christian, not Mormon.
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Date: February 10, 2008
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Date: February 08, 2008
Time: 10:55 PM
Is there any interest or effort in further forensic study of the massacre site and the bones unearthed there? With a change in president, is there any possibility the Mormons will cease to oppose study of the site and, ultimately, creating a national park or forest there?
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Date: February 07, 2008
Time: 08:58 PM
I am studying the Massacre as an undergraduate student for a seminar I'm taking. I want to be able to deal with the complexities of this event.
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Date: February 05, 2008
Time: 04:22 PM
Thanks to all who have developed and maintain this website. It has been invaluable to me in researching my family history. I hope to be contributing to the genealogical portion soon. I will be mailing my membership dues today and have distributed applications to other family members as well! Thanks and blessings to you all. Becky Brown (Great Great Great Granddaughter of Alexander Fancher - son of Richard)
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Date: February 05, 2008
Time: 02:20 PM
I saw the movie and was deeply moved. I never knew that such a tradegy happened where in the U.S. I cannot begin to feel what those people must have gone thru, but I can assure you that in the end justice will prevail. Maybe not here on earth but our Heavenly Father will punish all who were involved in this horible tradegy. Things like that should never have happened. God rest their souls.
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Date: February 04, 2008
Time: 02:12 PM
I am embarassed to say I knew nothing about this massacre until I watched the recent movie, September Dawn. This got me reading up on this tragedy. I must say this must be the most under-written about historical event. I am appalled that the Mormon church itself has never been held accountable, that there was never really a public outcry, and that I have not been able to find anything on the internet to show that the Mormon church has ever shown regret. It now makes me sick to think of their commercials, and the next Mormon that comes to my door to tell me that my church (United) will not save me from hell (true story), is going to get an earful. Brigham Young has a respected school named for him! I truly feel for all descendants of the victims in this massacre...may God bless you all.
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Date: February 02, 2008
Time: 09:24 PM
I am a former member of the LDS church. I left the church because I started investigating some questions addressed in Fawn Brodie's book "No Man Knows My History." My list of questions and concerns started growing and growing...my faith was destroyed. It was very painful. And, unfortunately, the Mountain Meadows Massacre was part of that search for discovery. I am very sorry. I agree that the land should be turned over to the federal government. And, I am ashamed that the church does not assume responsibility nor give the martyrs their rightful burials in honor. What a disgrace.
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Date: February 01, 2008
Time: 06:15 PM
Just view the Movie September Dawn and what can I say but I am VERY SADDEN by what happen to all those Children,Women & Men. Just can't understand the spineless act of those who were involve in Killing those poor folks that I Pray there day of justice will come soon. Till then I will keep ALL 120 in my Prayers and may this kind of SICKNESS never infect our US Soil again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wishing You All my Best, AL Thomas
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Date: January 31, 2008
Time: 12:05 AM
My great-grand mother was one of the children who survived the slaughter. Ida Mae Smith. I really don't know much. This information was passed down to me verbaly.
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Date: January 30, 2008
Time: 10:28 AM
Just finished watching the movie (SEPTEMBER DAWN) and needed to research the massacre. Thanks
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Date: January 29, 2008
Time: 10:52 PM
My husband and I reside in Washington State. We own five properties in the St George, Ut area. Until we watched the movie "September Dawn" last week-end, we had no idea that this had happened. We are not Mormon, but have always left that to itself. However, I do believe the Mountain Meadows Massacre has left a blight on the Mormon Church that needs to be rectified. We love The area, St George, and will never change our mind, but we do feel deeply that this needs to be rectified. Can't wait to get back there on Feb 12th, 2008.
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Date: January 28, 2008
Time: 01:50 PM
I just recently read about this historic massacre in the epic book written by Hampton Miles highlighting the life and times of Kit Carson. I was stunned to learn how this incident unfolded, expecially since there does not appear to have been any provocation shown by the Arkansas settlers who were simply moving through the area.
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Date: January 26, 2008
Time: 08:25 AM
I had never heard of the massacre until I stopped at the site while travelling through Utah a few years ago. It was an appropriately cold, grey day. One of the saddest places I have ever been. Thank you for keeping the memory of these poor souls alive.
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Date: January 26, 2008
Time: 02:04 AM
My grandma said that her grandpa tom Farmer did infact go with the baker and fancher train to california with alf smith and a calmus campbell ( I think that's his name I would have to look it up) . Grandma said that the wagon train was going too slow for them and they got impatient and went the northern route when they hit Utah.They did not learn of the massacure until several months later when they came back to arkansas by boat to lousiana.Grandma also said that one of her aunts who's last name was Smith had gone to california with a wagon train and the family never heard of them again?But no one knows for sure if they went on the baker/fancer wagon train or another one.
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Date: January 24, 2008
Time: 06:55 PM
I just viewed the movie about the massacre last night and was horrified at the killings of the innocent men, women and children in 1857. I did not even know this massacre had taken place until I saw the DVD at Blockbuster. I am very sorry that so many lost their lives that day. God Bless their families.
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Date: January 23, 2008
Time: 07:03 PM
My wife and I have just watched "September Dawn" which we found most shocking. It is a pity the title of the film was not more direct. It should have been called "Mountain Meadows Massacre". I come across many Mormons trying to recruit new members in my home town. Next time they accost me as I go about my business, I shall just say "Mountain Meadows Massacre" and walk on. Best wishes, Anthony Lavelle
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Date: January 23, 2008
Time: 09:49 AM
I heard about the MMM in a book called 'When Salt Lake City Calls' by Rocky Hulse. I have never heard about it befor. Thanks for putting the word out. God Bless and keep up the good work.
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Date: January 22, 2008
Time: 09:22 AM
I watched the movie, September Dawn, last night. I had never heard the story and found it intriguing. After exploring several sites on-line, I am appalled that the remains are still held by the ones who slayed them. I am glad to see that the families were never forgotten.
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Date: January 21, 2008
Time: 09:36 PM
Thank you for this web site, it allows me to know about my family,and what happen to them. thank you
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Remote Name: 207.70.2.74
Date: January 21, 2008
Time: 12:42 PM
I was born in may of 1951. I spent 40 of my 56 years as a morman.I did not know about mountain meadows until january 2008 when I watched a movie called September Dawn. I had my name removed from the records of the LDS church about 9 years ago, because I dont hold the same beliefs as they do. It does not suprise me to see this come up in mormon church history.
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Date: January 21, 2008
Time: 11:01 AM
I just finished reading Sally Denton's book "American Massacre" and am overwhelmed by the information not widely known about this horrific part of American history. Thank you for posting this website and assuring the presence of a monument at Mountain Meadows.
First_Name: veda
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Date: January 21, 2008
Time: 09:59 AM
This has been a well kept secret...my brother rented the movie September Dawn and then visited your website and told us about it so we rented the movie also. We are truly appalled at what happened. How anyone could have been a part of this is beyond me. We are so sorry for the loss and so sad for the children that was cheated from thier families. Sincerely, Veda
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Remote Name: 68.240.131.163
Date: January 20, 2008
Time: 10:23 AM
Saw the movie last night and was very moved. I cannot explain why certain people listen to men about religion or other matters and believe that these men or women actually know what there talking about. I live in Waco,Tx. I was here when the Branch Davidian Compound incident happened. It is a great tragedy to see all those people follow an idiot to there grave. My heart goes out to the victims families, on both sides of this tragedy.
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Date: January 16, 2008
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Date: January 15, 2008
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In my gr-gr-grandfathers, officialy published, biography it says he had a son Stephen Ball who left for the west before 1850. He was supposedly killed in the mid 1850 by the Mormons when he was going further west with a wagon train. I do not find his name on the lists but maybe there was more than one wagon train attack.
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Date: January 15, 2008
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In my gr-gr-grandfathers, officialy published, biography it says he had a son Stephen Ball who left for the west before 1850. He was supposedly killed in the mid 1850 by the Mormons when he was going further west with a wagon train. I do not find his name on the lists but maybe there was more than one wagon train attack.
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Date: January 15, 2008
Time: 12:18 PM
My grandfather was John Young Nelson. He wrote a book called "Fifty Years on the Trail" where he discribed some of the details about the massacre. His "claims" have been denied by the mormon church. My brother is a mormon & even he denies grandpa Nelsons' story. I lived with Grandma Rose Nelson Ecoffey, daughtor of John Young Nelson, while I attended boarding school in Pine Ridge, SD. I respect the memory of my ancestors & I feel there must some grain of truth in the retelling.
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Date: January 14, 2008
Time: 08:38 PM
I just watched the movie September Dawn.I am appauled at what the Mormons did. I think the Mormon Church should admit that they massacred inecent people.This almost sounds like an 18th century Hitler.In the movie I see Bringham Young as the leader of this Cult(and it was a cult or for sure was then) who always stayed out of harms way and made sure he was not to blame.
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Date: January 14, 2008
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I rented the dvd September Dawn over the weekend. I had never heard of this massacre before seeing the movie. I was speechless after watching it and now it's Monday afternoon and I still have a lump in my throat especially after going on-line and doing research on this terribly, sickening sad day. I wish I could do something for any survivors' families. But I do believe THE WORD NEEDS TO GET OUT TO EVERYONE. My children never studied this in school. And I was never exposed to it either. To me, this is the United States' Holocaust and the Mormom church should be held accountable - even today - in the year 2008. Debby
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Date: January 14, 2008
Time: 03:59 PM
My family roots run deep in Arkansas and until 1/12/2008 i was not aware of this event. I'm saddened at the fact that LDS will not own up to this tragedy and help the healing begin. This is a subject that needs to be brought out of the darkness and into the light of day. The current state of the world we need to look at all extermist and understand that they do not just come out of the middle east, that we in America have had some home grown along time before 911.
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Date: January 13, 2008
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Date: January 12, 2008
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I just watched Sept Dawn. It just blows my mind how grown adults can be so brain washed into doing such a horrible act against other human beings.
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Date: January 12, 2008
Time: 11:04 AM
As a Christian I find it unbelievable that other so called christians!. But then again the mormons have built a religion on a lie. God Bless all true believers.
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Date: January 12, 2008
Time: 12:46 AM
My husband and I rented the DVD SEPTEMBER DAWN and watched it earlier tonight. I did not know of this heinous event in American history until seeing this film. We were both horrified and sickened. I have been reading about the Mountain Meadows Massacre all night since watching the film. At the end of the film credits it was stated that the MORMONS continue to deny their religion's involvement which is apparently untrue according to your site. I am amazed that there could possibly be any tributes to Brigham Young in the state of Utah or anywhere in this country since he was so obviously involved. Our hearts weep for the victims regaardless of how long ago this barbaric, fanaticism event took place.
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Date: January 11, 2008
Time: 11:35 AM
I have just viewed the movie, "September Dawn" and would like to know the historical facts behind the movie. Too horrible to think it may have really happened.
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Date: January 10, 2008
Time: 04:30 PM
Even the NAZI's were held accountable. I am a german/hungarian american (catholic) and I had family that killed eachother in WWII....I hold some of that guilt ...what about the mormons??Accountability...??? Just acknowldgment would ease minds and hearts! My 14 year old son and I watched "September Dawn" and even he found the paradox of history disturbing. Prayers go out to those who live with this as part of thier personal history!
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Date: January 10, 2008
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I fail to see any Christian ethics in the massacre. Defense is one thing, but vengence belongs to God! This is the PAST. Lets leave it in the past and let God pronounce judgement.
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Date: January 09, 2008
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On my mothers side, my great, great grandmother was a Dunlap and survived. Im told my Uncle Cecil Warren knows alot about it so I am going to email him to find out more about our family's history in this.
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Date: January 08, 2008
Time: 06:48 PM
John D. Lee was a great man. He killed to protect our people.
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Date: January 07, 2008
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Date: January 07, 2008
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Date: January 06, 2008
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Just saw the movie...I had no idea....
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Date: January 06, 2008
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i would like to know if my family was invovled in any way
First_Name: Patricia
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Date: January 05, 2008
Time: 07:44 AM
I just watched the movie September Dawn.I am appauled at what the Mormons did. I live in Calgary Alberta and know some Mormons and they are nothing like the Mormons protrayed in the movie.They are kind and loving people and would not hurt anyone. I think that some of the Mormons and also like any Religion that can get out of hand the people of that Religion can become easily brainwashed.Those people in that wagon train where not going to hurt anyone,all they wanted to do is pass through to California. I think that the Mormon Church better step up to the plate and admit that they massacred inecent people.This almost sounds like an 18th century Hitler.In the movie I see Bringham Young as the leader of this (Cult) if you want to call it that who always stayed out of harms way and made sure he was not to blame.At the end of the show Lee was put to death by Fireing Squad,as far as I was concerned Brigham Young should have been by his side because he was the instagater of the whole massacre.Also I think that Bringham Young was crazy to have so many wives.That's nuts. There is one thing I don't understand about this,is if the Mormons were such God Fearing people did they not beleive in the Ten Commandments?Espeically Thou shall not kill and back to the many wives what about Thou shall not commit adultery?I beleive they disobeyed all the commandments.But then when we all die God will judge us and hopefully he judged Bringham Young and the rest of the Clan or (Cult)accordingly. Thank You Patricia Norris.
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Date: January 04, 2008
Time: 09:23 PM
This is heartbreaking. My husband and I just watched the movie "September Dawn". Neither of us had ever heard of this event and that is a sad thing. I am recommending this movie to friends and family, along with visiting this web site. I am not Mormon. My daughter has some friends at school who are and I disagree with some of what they have told my daughter, such as telling her that she will not go to Heaven because she is not Mormon. It is a tough thing to explain to your child when they come home questioning if they will go to Heaven or not because of not being Mormon. It saddens me to see that many Mormons must still to this day believe they are the only "chosen" people of God. I am so very sorry this massacre happened and I hope that more people can become aware of what has apparently been covered up by the LDS church for a long time. Thank you again for providing us with this knowledge. Many blessings, Annette
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Date: January 04, 2008
Time: 02:10 AM
I feel that until the Morman people admit that what was done was no better than Hitler and that their beloved leader is no better than Hitler will that church or the souls of the people following that faith ever be truly in line with GOD. Or any other faith that practices any such horrors in the name or our creator!
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Date: January 03, 2008
Time: 05:20 PM
I have visited the Mountain Meadow Massacre site. I initially learned about it reading Under The Banner by Jon Kraukaur. The incident is extremely intriguing and yet very sad. I wouldn't hold anything against the Mormon Church. If I were Mormon I don't know if I would want to advertise this tragedy. I think it is wonderful that this memorial site has been built. Next time I am in Utah I will definitely visit again. This is a great, but sad lesson in History. Let's not repeat it. We are a great country, built on much diversity and are in trying times. Please remember your own individual integrity. In each of us we DO know what is good and honorable.
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Date: January 03, 2008
Time: 04:10 AM
The more I learn about early Mormonisn and the violent history of its early leaders, the more I want it to disappear from america. The crap that these people believe in at face value makes them brethern of the Neanderthal. They are sheep wandering the lands and cities of America whipped about by money and sex in Salt Lake city, spreading a yarn that would make an aborigine laugh. Womanizers, money diggers, the "I am holier than thou" bullshit because I am a prophet who speaks directly with God." These freaks were run out of New York, Illinois, and Missouri, and they should keep running until they hit Antarctica. See if their angel Moroni and main man Morman can find a niche for them there. Might piss off the Penguins, though! Babylloyd
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Date: January 03, 2008
Time: 12:58 AM
This sad event should be teached at school all across both Nations: US & Canada. Its part of our global History. We should all remember this tragedy. Daniel Renaud, Montreal, Quebec
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Date: January 02, 2008
Time: 12:29 AM
I have just watched the movie, "September Dawn" and am glad that this story is being made public. What a horrific event for all concerned! I am shocked that I have never heard of this in my 39 years. Hurray for those brave enough to tell the story!
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Date: January 01, 2008
Time: 10:23 PM
I just finished watching the movie September Dawn which tells of the Mountain Meadows Massacre. I had no idea that this tragedy happened. What a horrible thing. It has totally changed my view on the Mormons.
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Date: December 30, 2007
Time: 08:36 PM
We didnt know about this tradegy until we watch September Dawn. Our hearts goes to the victims and their families.
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Date: December 28, 2007
Time: 04:28 PM
Only found out about this with the movie September Dawn. Did some looking and found this site and see list of victims, some so young, very brave and christian of you letting Mormons and decendents of the evil murderers join this site - personally i would tell them and their evil religion where to go.
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Date: December 24, 2007
Time: 08:43 AM
Enjoyed the website..very informative....Thnks
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Date: December 22, 2007
Time: 09:56 AM
I have visited in Utah for years.I now live in Tennessee and have always been drawn to the area for no real reason.Each time I visit I learn some new thing that draws me closer to the region.It has always been strange that when I mention Jim Bridger and his battles with the Mormons,no one seems to know about this Virginia boy and the Avenging Angels.
First_Name: Richard
Last_Name: Fancher
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Date: November 28, 2007
Time: 04:13 PM
We are glad that the Event has gotten some better recognization in recent years. Regard, Richard & Susan Fancher
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Last_Name: Collins
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Date: November 25, 2007
Time: 09:12 PM
My mother is Vera Sue Fancher daughter of Thomas Poyner Fancher, son of James and Mary Ella Fancher. I'm interested to know if any one is tracking the Fancher family since the book, Richard Fancher 1700-1764 of Morris County. This book ended with my mothers generation and of course many people have been born since. I would like to submit family information to any one continuing the family history.
First_Name: Gordon
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Date: November 20, 2007
Time: 07:04 AM
I was checking to find what the official position of the Mormon Church is and discovered your site.
First_Name: Jesse
Last_Name: Barton
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Family_Name: Lee
Date: November 19, 2007
Time: 11:41 AM
I am doing my Jr. class history fair report on the Mountain Meadows Massacre and my great, great, great, great, grandpa John Doyle Lee. This has been a great site for getting information thank you very much
First_Name: Wayne
Last_Name: Capurro
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Family_Name: Klingensmith
Date: November 18, 2007
Time: 07:22 PM
As a descendant of bishop Klingensmith I have attempted to do my part toward setting the record straight. That is why I wrote a book titled "WHITE FLAG: America's First 9/11". My website for the book is www.whiteflagbook.com. Thank you for developing this website. Wayne A. Capurro
First_Name: Erin
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Date: November 05, 2007
Time: 11:02 AM
I watched the story on channel 7 news the past couple of weeks and it broke my heart to hear what had happened, so I decided to look up more info about what had happened. I want to tell ya'll that what ya'll are doing is great and very important also. It's awsome that ya'll are trying to get all the truth of what happened, so that the whole country knows the truth. God Bless and have a wonderful day.
First_Name: Mel
Last_Name: Thomason
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Family_Name: Dunlap
Date: November 03, 2007
Time: 11:18 AM
I had never heard of the Mountain Meadows Massacre until today. Mary Wharton Dunlap and Nancy Wharton Dunlap were my great great grandmothers sisters. This is very interesting. We have a trip planned to Arizona and are going to make sure we visit the memorial.
First_Name: Jessica
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Date: October 30, 2007
Time: 03:36 PM
I grew up (non-Mormon) in Utah and we were NEVER taught any of this information in school. Why do so many terrible massacres take place on September 11th...really gets you thinking.
First_Name: JOHN
Last_Name: WIMMER
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Date: October 26, 2007
Time: 09:03 PM
The Massacre was a terrible time in our History, I am sorry for the Relatives of the Deceased. Please send me more information and if possible photos. Thank you, John Wimmer
First_Name: David
Last_Name: Berry
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Date: October 23, 2007
Time: 02:40 PM
First learned of the massacre while reading "Under the Banner of Heaven." I share the belief that the Mormon Church has never given the full measure of complicity nor sought forgiveness to the degree necessary to mollify the descendants of the immigrants.
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Date: October 21, 2007
Time: 11:03 PM
First_Name: JoAnn
Last_Name: Carter
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Date: October 18, 2007
Time: 11:16 PM
We are from Arkansas and just happened onto the Mountain Meadow Massacre sight while sightseeing, 10-18-07. As a history buff, of course I had to see what was there. We were shocked to see the Arkansas flag flying and completely surprised by the facts. We live less than one hundred miles from Harrison and had never heard of this. It was very touching to know that after all these years they and their families are not forgotten. We will definitely be looking for the memorial at Harison next time we are there.
First_Name: Katie
Last_Name: Lucas
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Family_Name: Fancher
Date: October 11, 2007
Time: 09:31 PM
My grandmother's maiden name is Fancher. My cousin, Della Fancher, has also wrote a book about the Mountain Meadows Massacre. I think it's neat to learn about your family history. I'm only 16 and I love to read stuff on the massacre. It upsets me sometimes to know that people are that cruel in the world today. Also, I have never found out what drove the mormons to do that. I don't know if we ever found out or even ever will.
First_Name: Robert
Last_Name: Baker
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Date: October 11, 2007
Time: 07:34 PM
First_Name: Casey
Last_Name: Rainer
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Date: October 10, 2007
Time: 10:52 PM
Great site.
First_Name: Judith
Last_Name: Rudolph
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Date: October 07, 2007
Time: 04:55 PM
I saw the movie,SEPTEMBER DAWN,in august 2007 and have read several books about the MOUNTAIN MEADOWS MASSACRE.What a sad day in our history Sept.11,1857,must have been.I feel sorry,for both sides of the families,who were invalved.My own family history,had people crossing the plains in covered wagons arround that same time. J.A. Rudolph
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Date: October 05, 2007
Time: 01:40 PM
First_Name: Barbara
Last_Name: Westgarth
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Date: October 01, 2007
Time: 04:00 AM
It is hard to put into words my shame of what happened to all who lost their lives at the Mountain Meadows Massacre. I am not a descendant of any of the families, but have been working on our family history for many years. I am presently reading September Dawn, and purchased Sally Denton's book also. We've toured Southern Utah, visited Bryce & Zion, but were never able to visit the site at Mountain Meadows. I hope to some day, and also help to keep this tragic story alive for future generations to realize how hatred can cause so much grief for all.
First_Name: tree
Last_Name: island
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Date: September 29, 2007
Time: 06:24 AM
Visited site last summer. Sad that LDS has their dirty revisionist fingers in most sites that come up in googling. According to what I heard, this was the walthiest wagon train ever headed West and the promary reason for Massacre was money, pure and simple. Sa the movie, sad disappointment. Also haven't heard how the LDS conspired to break up origianal train into two parties (more manageable size) and manipulate to Mountain Meadows. Yes ,children wre returned, Lee became martyr for church, but, was any of the money returned. Also thought it was ultimate chutxpah for lds to submit a bill to government for board and care of the orphans.
First_Name: DebraLee
Last_Name: Schreiber
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Family_Name: Lee
Date: September 27, 2007
Time: 05:48 PM
I am fascinated by this information. My grandmother, Inez Lee Woolley (great granddaughter (90 yrs old) of John D. Lee) has shared much information with me about John through out the years. I now have been able to share this website with her. What little bit of info she didn't have about John D. Lee she now has. Thank you
First_Name: Nancy
Last_Name: Phillips
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Family_Name: Baker
Date: September 26, 2007
Time: 11:22 AM
My great grandmother was Martha Elizabeth Baker one of the 17 surviving children. I've been to the Mountain Meadows site a few years ago for the first memorial dedication. I'm thrilled that someone finally made a movie such as September Dawn. The country needs to be educated in our historical background.
First_Name: Stephen
Last_Name: Winemiller
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Date: September 23, 2007
Time: 06:51 PM
First_Name: W
Last_Name: Cole
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Date: September 20, 2007
Time: 11:20 AM
This is a very interesting site. I had no clue about what happen at this place and this site has fulled me in with alot of missing information.
First_Name: Sandra
Last_Name: Dixon
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Date: September 19, 2007
Time: 10:27 PM
I have been reading your sight for a couple hours. Yet, I am not sure what to think of the whole thing. The Mormons were treated very badly during this time. Yet, this was a sad event. The LDS church as helped with a lot of the things that have been done to help us all remember this time in our history. I have been looking for what reasons the Mormons have given for the massacre.
First_Name: Donna
Last_Name: Brossette
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Date: September 18, 2007
Time: 03:36 PM
EDWARD AND (CHARITY ANN PORTER) CONQUER OR COKER-IN MY GENEALOGY RESEARCH I HAVE FOUND PAPERS STATING THIS COUPLE AND 2 OF THEIR CHILDREN WERE ON THIS WAGON TRAIN. my husband is related through Charity Ann Porter. The Porter family had traveled from HANCOCK CO. Ill and had lived in Kirkland , O hio for a while. WERE LIVING around berryville, ARKANSAS AT THE TIME The train left. They were a real pioneer family, continually moving farther west i think they were of the mormon faith but i cant prove it. just because location as were they lived.. ALL MY IMFORMATION IS AT HOME IN SHhreveport, La. I AM IN UTAH WITH MY DAUGHTER TILL THE END OF THE MONTH. I'LL CONTACT YOU AGAIN. I NOTICED THEEY WERE NOT LISTED ON THE MONUMENT
First_Name: Edward
Last_Name: Meyer
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Date: September 16, 2007
Time: 08:18 PM
I have lived in Northern Arkansas for more than 15 years. I became aware of the Massacre shortly after I moved here. I have read several books on the subject and Saw the movie, September Dawn, recently which peaked my interest again. Keep up the good work.
First_Name: joan
Last_Name: pelley
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Date: September 16, 2007
Time: 12:36 PM
I'm a reporter at a weekly newspaper in south central Idaho. I'm interviewing a local businessman, Skip Meyers, who just returned from the memorial observance. Skip had ancestors who were killed at Mountain Meadows.
First_Name: John
Last_Name: Brannan
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Date: September 15, 2007
Time: 10:27 PM
First_Name: Cheryl
Last_Name: Gremaux
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Family_Name: CameronMiller
Date: September 15, 2007
Time: 04:02 AM
I am trying to contact Mary Jane Blackshear or anyone else who is researching the 3 surviving Miller kids. If you know how to contact Mary, could you have her contact me? Thank you. Cheryl
First_Name: Shane
Last_Name: Esplin
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: Cartwright
Date: September 13, 2007
Time: 11:25 AM
Nice site.....very informative
First_Name: Michelle
Last_Name: Wells
Family_Related: Don't know
Date: September 12, 2007
Time: 12:43 AM
My maiden name is Hudson. My Great-Grandparents were from the Iowa. I have heard of family members from Arkansas, but will try to find out more about this Hudson. If you have any information about this D. Hudson, I would be very interested in what you can tell me. Thank You, Michelle M. Wells (Hudson)
First_Name: Ernest
Last_Name: Delmoe
Family_Related: Don't know
Family_Name:
Date: September 11, 2007
Time: 02:50 PM
My heart goes out to all who have suffered as the result of this tragedy. May God's love and grace heal them.
First_Name: Richard
Last_Name: Lee
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: Lee
Date: September 11, 2007
Time: 11:50 AM
Greetings, I attended the Saturday Morning Service at the meadows Sept. 8, 2007 and the Dinner at the Dixie Center that night. I am a due's paying member of the association for many years now and attended the Dedication of the Seige Site/Grave Site in 1999. I just want to say thanks to all those who planned and in any way contributed to putting on these events. My experience at the memorial service last Saturday was moving to say the least. The minister from the Shepard of the Hills Methodist Church gave such a wonderful sermon on the need to seek peace and healing, and to truly learn to Love one another, it moved me to tears. A truly universal message for us all. I am sure that I was not alone in how I felt that morning. I am so proud of the members of the association on both sides of this tragedy for their desire to come together in the spirit of brotherly Love and seek to bring peace and healing to all. I meet and had a chance to speak to a man who's last name is Dunlap who's ancesters/relatives are numbered in the mid teen's among the list of victims of this horrible tragedy. Even though there is not a man or woman who had anything to do with this event alive today including the two of us, I expressed my heart felt sympathy for his family's loss at Mt. Meadows. And with tears in his eye's he expessed his sympathy to me and my family for the loss of life of our ancester at Mt. Meadows as well as the only person who paid with his life for his part in this tragedy. We wept together as we realized that the events at this tragic location had caused both of us pain through the years. I was amazed at his acknowledgement even with his own sense of loss. It brought me hope that at least between he and I the bitterness had come to an end. I wish that the world could likewise turn from bitterness and retribution to Love and Forgiveness. This is only way we can learn to live in peace and harmony. I am greatful for the MMA for it's stated mission of bringing peace and healing to tragic event. That we can all learn that the opposite attitude, that of Mistrust and Hatred which is the root cause of this tragedy 150 years ago. Thanks you to the board members of the MMA for your selfless service to us all!!! Richard O. Lee
First_Name: Regina
Last_Name: Batia
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: Baker
Date: September 10, 2007
Time: 03:10 PM
William Twitty Baker(the baby that was 9 months old) was my mother's grandfather. I have some information for the Baker genelogy, when I clicked on from your website but I do not know who to contact to update. I think this site is wonderful and a very great remembrance. Thanks to all who designed it!
First_Name: Edvar
Last_Name: Tjelmeland
Family_Related: Don't know
Family_Name:
Date: September 10, 2007
Time: 01:37 PM
I just read about this in a Norwegian magazine. Never heard of it before. It's a sad story of religious people acting insane.
First_Name: Ginnie
Last_Name: Haynes
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: September 08, 2007
Time: 07:03 PM
I moved two years ago to St. George from Blytheville, Arkansas. I had never heard about the MMM until I watched the PBS special, "The Mormons". I feel a lot of anger about this horrifying event of 150 years ago. I went to the Memorial today (9/08/07)trying to understand this unforgiveable event. No, I don't understand.
First_Name: Harold
Last_Name: Cohn
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: September 06, 2007
Time: 05:33 PM
To whom it may concern: Thank you for being there. I am researching the Mountain Meadows Massacre. Your web site is a wonderful source. Keep up the good work. Sincerely, Harold P.S I will be at the Mountain Meadows Massacre site at the end of September.
First_Name: Skyy
Last_Name: McKendry
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: Young
Date: September 06, 2007
Time: 03:35 PM
You have the date of the Massacre as September 11th. The correct date is September 7th. I have actual, original documents from a relative who participated in the murders & he clearly states that the murders occured on September 7th. I've also seen numerous original documents hand-written by several of the other Mormon men who participated in the murders & they ALL state that the date was the 7th. I'm not certain how you came up with the date of the 11th but it needs to be corrected. The history of this terrible action by the Mormon Church has been lied about enough.
First_Name: Dorthy
Last_Name: Castro
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: Wood
Date: September 04, 2007
Time: 10:07 PM
My Mother, Nancy Elizabeth Honeycutt Abbott is the Ggranddaughter of Sarah Wood Henderson, sister to Solemon and William and Winnie Wood(Stallcup).
First_Name: keith
Last_Name: robinson
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: September 03, 2007
Time: 10:50 PM
just saw the movie "september dawn "and I am stunned.
First_Name: Linda
Last_Name: Howell
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: September 02, 2007
Time: 09:23 PM
Addendum to my first e-mail. It's pretty sobering to realize that had I lived in Utah during the same time and under the same circumstances as my ancestors did, I could as easily have been guilty of the same evils done that contributed to the murders at Mountain Meadows. May God truly take away all pride and give us hearts of love and forgiveness.
First_Name: Linda
Last_Name: Howell
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: September 02, 2007
Time: 08:50 PM
I first heard of the Mountain Meadows Massacre (MMM) a number of years ago while reading through a History and Genealogy of my family in a publication given to my grandmother in 1960. My grandmother, raised in Utah, was a granddaughter of Mormon Apostle Parley Parker Pratt, Contained in the family history given to her was an account of the death of a family member, a farmer, living in Utah in the time directly preceding the MMM. It stated, in part, about the death of the farmer/family member, “He skinned an animal that was poisoned by Missouri and Arkansas immigrants, who had gone through poisoning water and other degradations, and who was finally stopped by the Mt. Meadows Massacre.” This sparked my interest. Interesting reading on the SAINTS ALIVE website (saintsalive.com) in their Library, the Mormon Resource file, #19 Wife, The Story of a Life in Bondage to Mormonism by Brigham Young's apostate wife, Ann Eliza. Chapter 23 contains the authors thoughts and recollections about the MMM, In the same chapter she shares was she believed about the killing of my ancestor, Apostle Parley Parker Pratt, and theconnection of his death as partial justication for the massacre. The author writes, “…But the Mormons were deeply infuriated; they held every Arkansas man personally responsible for the murder of their Apostle,” referring to Pratt, “whom they at once canonized as saint, and worshipped as martyr, and whose name, to this day, is spoken with reverence by them; and the fact that any of these emigrants were from that state, gave them, as they thought an opportunity of revenging Pratt’s death, at the same time that they had avenged the murder of their Prophet.” Parley Parker Pratt was a polygamist with at least 12, and possibly up to 14 wives, the last wife being previously married to Pratt’s killer, an angry ex-husband. I came to recognize my ancestors involvement in the terrible deeds perpetrated upon the Fancher Party. Although I have not found any direct family link to any specific murderer, my descendents were not guiltless. I acknowledge having loving good people among my descendents. However, I openly confess the sins family family and religious pride, blind obedience/fear in following the mandates of Brigham Young not to feed or sell sell anything to members of the emigrant train, ancestral belief and practice in following the Mormon doctrine of Blood Atonement, passing on evil accounts of the Fancher Party, justification, gloating over the deaths of those massacred, and covering up or lying about the MMM that makes my family/descendents accountable. I am a Christian, not Mormon. I am deeply saddened by my family sin, and I would like to ask forgiveness on behalf of my descendents for any role that has been played in the MMM, as well as for any evil spoken about members of the emigrant party. I believe that the inquities of the fathers are passed on to the third and fourth generations, and my family, too, has suffered much. Please forgive us. Thank you.
First_Name: David
Last_Name: Howard
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: September 02, 2007
Time: 11:02 AM
I would like information on what happened , but am geting quite old and don't feel mI can read a whole book. Thanks david H
First_Name: Derek
Last_Name: Crawley
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: September 02, 2007
Time: 06:23 AM
It was only two hours ago that I heard an item on a British Broadcasting Corporation radio programme in which a speaker who's name I did not catch, about the Meadow Mountain Masscre. I had no knowledge about this prior to the radio item. It was a moving piece and I shall be researching more in the future. It is not surprising that here in the UK it is not well known but I have always been interested in American history although only on a fairly superficial level, but I have never come across this tragic event before. My thoughts will be with you on the 150th anniversary on the 11th. Sincerely Derek Crawley.
First_Name: Steve
Last_Name: Cooper
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: Rush
Date: September 01, 2007
Time: 03:17 PM
This was a very unfortunate incident in the western history of the United States. No one who is responsible is alive today so it is difficult to have hard feelings towards any certain individual. Would have liked to come the your 150 anniversary activities but distance and time prohibited my attending.
First_Name: M
Last_Name: DArcy
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: September 01, 2007
Time: 01:59 AM
I have just been made aware of these tragic events following a radio broadcast on BBC radio in Great Britain. A tragic, sorrowful and shocking event which must be so unreported in the annals of American history that it beggars belief.
First_Name: Jared
Last_Name: Smith
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: Lee
Date: August 31, 2007
Time: 08:06 PM
The managing director of the Family and Church History Department of the Mormon Church has written an article on the Mountain Meadows Massacre, and it is published in the September issue Church's official English language magazine. This magazine is very widely read in the LDS church. You can find the article by going to www.lds.org and clicking on the Gospel Library link. It is the first article on that page.
First_Name: Stephen
Last_Name: Gruber
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: August 30, 2007
Time: 11:59 PM
I am a historian, and have been interested in this event in American history for some time. This event should be made into a feature film, however, my own bias is that it was a Mormon action directed by higher authorities, and duly covered up over the years. For obvious reasons, such a feature film will probably never be made. However, that there is reconciliation for families on both sides, is a good thing, indeed. SG
First_Name: Albert
Last_Name: Welsh
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: August 30, 2007
Time: 08:26 PM
I don't know why some of the family of the victims, Don't sue the mormen church for compsation for what they did...Albert Welsh Mesa,az ( not mormen)......
First_Name: Scott
Last_Name: Cook
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: August 29, 2007
Time: 07:16 PM
Thank you for this very informative site. I am about to go see the movie September Dawn. Knowing that film makers have their biases as well as editing decisions that have to be made to fit the story into two hours time, I wanted to know as much about the actual events as possible before viewing the film. I believe I have found the most authoritative source in existence in your website. The victims and their decendents deserve not only to have their memory honored and preserved, but also the actual historical facts of this atrocity as closely as they can be ascertained. Again, thank you!
First_Name: Troy
Last_Name: Wyatt
Family_Related: Don't know
Family_Name: Fanchers
Date: August 29, 2007
Time: 07:11 PM
First_Name: Pamela
Last_Name: Lane
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: August 29, 2007
Time: 05:30 PM
I am LDS. Like your site & really learned alot. WE ALL SEEK FOR THE HONEST TRUTH. Thanks, Pam Lane
First_Name: carla
Last_Name: cates
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: huff
Date: August 29, 2007
Time: 04:48 PM
we know that nancy huff married a dallas cates but we dont know their childrens names. we are related to a george pleasant cates and we think this might be his father. if any one has info it would grealy be appreciated
First_Name: Adrienne
Last_Name: Doyle
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: August 29, 2007
Time: 02:56 AM
This is definitely a tragic incident that like the more current 9/11, must never be forgotten.
First_Name: Betty
Last_Name: Parker
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: Fancher
Date: August 29, 2007
Time: 12:27 AM
My maiden name is Fancher,i recently saw the movie September Dawn,and was very disturbed and what happened.The story broke my heart,i didn't realize their were so many Fanchers that were massacred,and other innocent people.
First_Name: D
Last_Name: J
Family_Related: Don't know
Family_Name:
Date: August 28, 2007
Time: 11:34 PM
My dad's family, Poteete, and his mother's family, Evans, were all from NW Ark. I am originally from NW Arkansas. We know that my dad had relatives that were in one of the wagon trains that went west in 1857, but it was not the Fancher wagon train. There was a Poteet wagon train that eventually made it out west and then eventually members back to what is now Poteet, Tx. The Poteet that headed that train describes in a book how he and other members of their party took a different route and did not get massacred. I visited Harrison, Ark and have seen the memorial on the square there. I am glad it is there. I think people need to remember that tragedy. My mother has information from her genealogy work on my dad's side. I don't know if any of those who were murdered were our kin or not, but they might have been. My dad's ancestors all lived around Boxley, Compton, Jasper, and even had a grist mill that is now in the national forest. It is only able to be found by mule. My cousins located it a few years back with the help of a forest ranger. Even if the massacred weren't related they deserve to be remembered with reverence and what happened to them to not be forgotten. I wish the place in Utah was not so far away or I would go visit and pay my respects. I cannot believe such a tragedy has been forgotten by so many. It reminds me of the " Battle of the Washita" massacre in western Ok. that until a few years ago didn't even have a sign up or anything. At last there is a memorial for the Indian Massacre. I am glad that there is a Mtn. Meadows Massacre Association to help keep the memories of the innocent alive. I would like to go to the 150th memorial. I hope that those who do go take a movie so others can view what takes place. Thanks. DJ
First_Name: Kyle
Last_Name: Kennedy
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: Scott
Date: August 28, 2007
Time: 10:04 PM
I am very interested in doing more research. The past couple of years I have been doing my family's genealogy. Discovering that my gr gr grandfather's brother and family were in the Mountain Meadow Massacre. His name was Dr. David Scott. My husband, sister and I will be attending the 150th commemoration on friday night and Saturday. If anyone has anymore information regarding the Scott family members, please let me know. Thank you Kyle Kennedy
First_Name: Michael
Last_Name: MacGillivray
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: August 27, 2007
Time: 08:53 PM
Greetings Everyone: I'll be fifty-eight next month, and I only learned of the massacre when my wife and me moved to St. George, Utah, in 1995. Having been a student of history since the age of six, I was dumfounded that I knew nothing of the tragedy, and immmediately questioned why it had not been taught in California's public schools. After a decade in Utah (1995-2005), the question now seems silly. I was delighted to learn a film would bring the story to thousands of people. Unfortunately, the reviews of the latter have not been stellar. I can only hope that - if the film goes down in critical flames, your organization will use the opportunity and timing to get in front of the media to simply relate what happened. I find nothing more offensive than religious bigotry. Thank-you for keeping the story alive. It not only is a testament to your relatives, but to all who seek truth in the past. Best Regards
First_Name: Margie
Last_Name: Wayne
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: Mitchell
Date: August 27, 2007
Time: 07:12 PM
My mother has done some research into the family of my Grandfather, William Jefferson Moore. She found his mother's family were the Mitchells, and probably related to those on the wagon train. Will relay the names in your web site to Mom for further research. Thanks
First_Name: Bill
Last_Name: Stemmons
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: August 25, 2007
Time: 10:35 PM
I was basically unaware of this story. Tonight I just saw the movie and afterwards met a descendant and visited with them for a few minutes in the parking lot. An awesome and ghastly story or history, parts of it difficult for this 60-year old lover of history to watch. Thank you for having this kind of association. BRS
First_Name: maryanne
Last_Name: berry
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: August 25, 2007
Time: 09:22 PM
First_Name: Jeremy
Last_Name: Reymer
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: Fancher
Date: August 25, 2007
Time: 06:12 PM
I enjoyed the movie although it made me angry. I plan to attend the 150th Anniversary at Mountain Meadows.
First_Name: Mrs
Last_Name: Holland
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: August 25, 2007
Time: 03:38 PM
I began reading up on this tragic event only recently and admit that I did not know anything about this horrific incident. Your website is beautiful and I pray that those lost are always remembered. May they rest in peace...and never be forgotten.
First_Name: Brian
Last_Name: Aron
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: August 24, 2007
Time: 11:04 PM
I just saw "Sept. Dawn." The movie was so-so, but the story is so important and tragic. The Mormon Church needs to fully recognize the history of this event.
First_Name: Brian
Last_Name: Aron
Date: August 24, 2007
Time: 11:04 PM
I just saw "Sept. Dawn." The movie was so-so, but the story is so important and tragic. The Mormon Church needs to fully recognize the history of this event.
First_Name: Dave
Last_Name: Tilford
Family_Related: Don't know
Family_Name:
Date: August 24, 2007
Time: 09:47 PM
We are looking forward to September 7th-9th
First_Name: loma
Last_Name: gatlin
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: fancher
Date: August 24, 2007
Time: 07:40 PM
thank you so much for all your work. i know the families appreciate it
First_Name: chris
Last_Name: nichols
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: fancher
Date: August 24, 2007
Time: 05:49 PM
from the little research i've been able to do i think i've found that my great, great, great, great grandfather was james fancher and was the uncle of alexander fancher who died at mountain meadow (not sure what that makes me and him, maybe 6th cousins or something, not sure how that works)...the first time i saw james and elizabeth fancher's picture on the web i couldn't believe it because as a boy growing up in texas my great grandmother had the exact same picture sitting on a book shelf over her tv...this is all on my mother's side of the family who are from arkansas...i live in the washington dc area of northern va and have even seen this story in the national archives museum some 14 years ago...very interesting that it is now being made into a movie and is even more nice to know i have distant relatives all over the place!
First_Name: Barbara
Last_Name: MacDonald
Family_Related: No
Family_Name:
Date: August 24, 2007
Time: 01:46 PM
I have read so many books about the Mountain Meadows Massacre, most recently Sally Denton's "American Massacre". I have visited the Mountain Meadows site. Having lived in and traveled in this area for over 30 years I am very familiar with the settlements, towns, routes traveled. As hard as I try I just cant find a way to forgive the perpetrators or the Mormon Church or the U.S.Government. I'll visit the site again in September. Someday if I keep trying I hope to come to some sort of peace in my own mind.
First_Name: chandra
Last_Name: Irwincates
Family_Related: Yes
Family_Name: huff
Date: August 24, 2007
Time: 01:46 AM
Nancy Saphrona Huff (married to George Cates) was my great-graet grandmother. I have a copy of a statement that she made to the Dardanelle Independent Arkansian, August 20, 1875. I recently heard through the new's that a movie was coming out that sounded an awful lot like a family story that I had come across a few years ago when researching my own family geneology. Untill I heard about this through the news, I had no Idea of the significants that this story would have to my owm life. Without the exsistance of my g-g- grandmoter huff-cate's I would not be here today. She was the only survivor from my family line. I have a strong love for my family heritage. Thank you for this website, I appreciate the effort that was made to start it. I am proud to be a desendant of this family. I look forward to seeing the movie when it is rel